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	<title>Comments on: What old-school trial lawyers really think about mediators</title>
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		<title>By: Diane Levin</title>
		<link>http://mediationchannel.com/2009/03/04/what-old-school-trial-lawyers-really-think-about-mediators/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane Levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does make me wonder why I bothered &lt;a href=&quot;http://mediationchannel.com/2009/02/22/mediating-between-law-and-mediation-time-for-both-sides-to-declare-a-cease-fire/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to call for an end to the hostilities last week&lt;/a&gt;...

Marvin, I&#039;m with you, then count me among the elite. Ironic, really, when you stop to consider that mediation here in the U.S. has deep roots in community activism and social justice movements, providing an alternative to establishment-style dispute resolution.

Neil and Alasdair raise great points here, and I&#039;m pleased to see those outside the U.S. share their perspectives. These old-school trial lawyers seem to think it&#039;s not true negotiation until someone else&#039;s blood and guts are spilled in the sand of the arena.  Must be scary for old dinosaurs to hear the roar of a meteor hurtling straight toward them.

We&#039;d all do well to heed Seth Godin&#039;s words. (Mediators, too.) I thank you for invoking them, Alasdair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does make me wonder why I bothered <a href="http://mediationchannel.com/2009/02/22/mediating-between-law-and-mediation-time-for-both-sides-to-declare-a-cease-fire/" rel="nofollow">to call for an end to the hostilities last week</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Marvin, I&#8217;m with you, then count me among the elite. Ironic, really, when you stop to consider that mediation here in the U.S. has deep roots in community activism and social justice movements, providing an alternative to establishment-style dispute resolution.</p>
<p>Neil and Alasdair raise great points here, and I&#8217;m pleased to see those outside the U.S. share their perspectives. These old-school trial lawyers seem to think it&#8217;s not true negotiation until someone else&#8217;s blood and guts are spilled in the sand of the arena.  Must be scary for old dinosaurs to hear the roar of a meteor hurtling straight toward them.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d all do well to heed Seth Godin&#8217;s words. (Mediators, too.) I thank you for invoking them, Alasdair.</p>
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		<title>By: Alasdair Reed</title>
		<link>http://mediationchannel.com/2009/03/04/what-old-school-trial-lawyers-really-think-about-mediators/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alasdair Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a time when many disputes were settled by blood-feud, that didn&#039;t quite meet the needs of societies who wished to progress and build a productive civil society. So, on to the duel, the killing or injuring of one to settle the matter, rather than generations of conflict and death. Again needs not met. Enter the court room where disputes are DECIDED (in the end, by a judge or similar) but not necessarily RESOLVED according to the needs of the disputants. To meet this need mediation arose. It would not have arisen if there was not a need for it. All methods still exist and are in use concurrently today and no doubt will contue to be so. Members of the ABA might like to consider, in the light of the following quote,
 &quot;Whenever a trade association raises the barricades and tries to lobby  their way into maintaining the status quo, they are doing their members a  disservice.instead of spending time insight and effort  reinventing             what they do and organizing for a better future, the members are lulled  into a sense of security that somehow,  the future will just  like today.&quot; Seth Godin         http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/03/beware-of-trade-guilds-maintaining-the-status-quo.ht
what their organisation is attempting  to do for them in changing times, and how this may reflect upon the profession by the publishing of such opinions in a prominent way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time when many disputes were settled by blood-feud, that didn&#8217;t quite meet the needs of societies who wished to progress and build a productive civil society. So, on to the duel, the killing or injuring of one to settle the matter, rather than generations of conflict and death. Again needs not met. Enter the court room where disputes are DECIDED (in the end, by a judge or similar) but not necessarily RESOLVED according to the needs of the disputants. To meet this need mediation arose. It would not have arisen if there was not a need for it. All methods still exist and are in use concurrently today and no doubt will contue to be so. Members of the ABA might like to consider, in the light of the following quote,<br />
 &#8220;Whenever a trade association raises the barricades and tries to lobby  their way into maintaining the status quo, they are doing their members a  disservice.instead of spending time insight and effort  reinventing             what they do and organizing for a better future, the members are lulled  into a sense of security that somehow,  the future will just  like today.&#8221; Seth Godin         <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/03/beware-of-trade-guilds-maintaining-the-status-quo.ht" rel="nofollow">http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/03/beware-of-trade-guilds-maintaining-the-status-quo.ht</a><br />
what their organisation is attempting  to do for them in changing times, and how this may reflect upon the profession by the publishing of such opinions in a prominent way.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Denny</title>
		<link>http://mediationchannel.com/2009/03/04/what-old-school-trial-lawyers-really-think-about-mediators/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Denny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It must be exhausting for mediators as individuals and as a profession to have to keep coming up against this kind of attitude.

I would like to think that the offensive views expressed within the Journal are generational. Unfortunately I see no evidence that it is.

I also worry that the tough times many law firms are facing, both in the USA and over here in the UK, will only increase such defensive opinions as firms may be tempted to hoard those clients who just happen to fall across their firm as a gateway to the dispute resolution marketplace.

What is the mediation world&#039;s experience? Are clients turning increasingly to mediation or are they being increasingly deterred from it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be exhausting for mediators as individuals and as a profession to have to keep coming up against this kind of attitude.</p>
<p>I would like to think that the offensive views expressed within the Journal are generational. Unfortunately I see no evidence that it is.</p>
<p>I also worry that the tough times many law firms are facing, both in the USA and over here in the UK, will only increase such defensive opinions as firms may be tempted to hoard those clients who just happen to fall across their firm as a gateway to the dispute resolution marketplace.</p>
<p>What is the mediation world&#8217;s experience? Are clients turning increasingly to mediation or are they being increasingly deterred from it?</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin Schuldiner</title>
		<link>http://mediationchannel.com/2009/03/04/what-old-school-trial-lawyers-really-think-about-mediators/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marvin Schuldiner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mediation and arbitration are ALTERNATIVE dispute resolutions to litigation.  Litigation is an ALTERNATIVE dispute resolution to violence.  If civility is elitist, I&#039;m happy to be a member of the &quot;high elite&quot;.

Further, the root of mediation comes from latin and means to be in the middle or to intercede. Isn&#039;t that what judges, juries and courts do in litigation? So, is that process mediocre as well by his logic?

I guess some people just don&#039;t like being in the 21st century.  Mediation is the new way to resolve disputes.  Isn&#039;t that why clients hire attorneys in the first place, to resolve their specific problem(s)?

He also seems to forget that mediation and arbitration are voluntarily entered into.  People do so (including his contemporaries in the bar) because they see a value in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mediation and arbitration are ALTERNATIVE dispute resolutions to litigation.  Litigation is an ALTERNATIVE dispute resolution to violence.  If civility is elitist, I&#8217;m happy to be a member of the &#8220;high elite&#8221;.</p>
<p>Further, the root of mediation comes from latin and means to be in the middle or to intercede. Isn&#8217;t that what judges, juries and courts do in litigation? So, is that process mediocre as well by his logic?</p>
<p>I guess some people just don&#8217;t like being in the 21st century.  Mediation is the new way to resolve disputes.  Isn&#8217;t that why clients hire attorneys in the first place, to resolve their specific problem(s)?</p>
<p>He also seems to forget that mediation and arbitration are voluntarily entered into.  People do so (including his contemporaries in the bar) because they see a value in it.</p>
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